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11.06.2022 The site has been transformed into an archive. Thank you for all the memories here!
Here on Classic we understand that sometimes life can get difficult and we struggle. We may need to receive advice, vent, know that we are not alone in our difficult times, or even just have someone listen to what's going on in our lives. In light of these times, we have created the support threads below that are open to all of our members at any time.
disclaimer: i in no way speak for the rest of the moderators or the admins and this is in no way an endorsed message; i'm just a lil fox in a big world tryna make sense of a world that's fallen apart around me, so, though i'm not trying to be inflammatory or start a debate, any resulting heat should be directed solely at me and not at any of the others ♥
dear all,
i don't really know where to start with this. most likely, i won't end up posting this at all, because, as i've said time and time again in the moderators' chat, i'm of the firm belief that those in positions of power shouldn't air their dirty laundry, not until it's had a chance to be sorted through. maybe folded neatly. this metaphor is getting tricky. either way, i've both been proven right and proven wrong - proven right in the sense that so much of this could have been avoided if we as staff members had waited until we had a game plan and had decided on how best to address all these concerns before allowing the wrong sort of information to trickle down to the site, because that is what responsible leaders do — they get their facts together, and then they act as a united front, clear in their position and their goals so that they can be a source of stability in difficult times; proven wrong in the sense that greater transparency was clearly needed dearly by the users we are meant to take care of and serve. and this all started over such a silly thing that we should have just been honest about. that's on us.
but i want you all to know that the mod chat has gone through every imaginable stage - it's been a war zone, where i would wake up to 400+ messages and a chat filled with staff desperately trying to address users' concerns and think up ways to remedy them, to a safe space, the only place we felt we could openly cry and comfort each other and tell dumb jokes to take our minds off the anxiety and the pain and the frustration and the panic. i want you to know that we have not been silent because we don't care, but because we care too much - the fact that there would be 99+ messages in under half an hour, just filled with us all shouting out solutions and ideas and citing users' comments and maybe crying a little in between, attests to that. we care so much, and that's why so many of us just couldn't face it. we're not some faceless, villainous entity. hi, my name's kaitie, i'm 21, and my favourite colour is orange. i think i'm more a gay flower than a villain, but i guess the two could be pretty cool combined.
anyway.
behind closed doors, we've been taking on board every single thing you all have said - we've been discussing them, agreeing with them, bouncing ideas off each other that have been inspired by them; we've suggested a bare-all public apology, complete overhaul, deletion, stepping down, everything, just to make you all feel comfortable and loved and listened to and cared for. we've drafted and amended surveys, planned messages and posts, told each other we need to be honest with our users, we need greater transparency, we need a timeline of events, we need to get it all out there in the open so you all know we are listening. we are trying. we haven't been allowed to feel grief or anger, because we've been so deep in fix it, fix it, make this better mode. i can't even talk properly to my closest friend on here because she's not yet a mod and i just can't properly describe to her what it's like in there right now. it pushed us apart, it tore us into fighting factions, and then it pushed us back even closer together. and, hell, i've even reconnected with a friend i'd fallen out with - that's the beautiful thing about drama; your own personal fights pale in comparison!
and now, we are trying so, so hard.
when a complete overhaul was first suggested, when i first got up at 7:30 this morning and sifted my way through 400 messages, i was devastated. i was upset, and more than a little possessive, because who wouldn't want to hold onto that little bit of power you've been given? who wouldn't want to stay leader? but now, i will gladly do it just to make you all happy. we had leaders offering up their clans for deletion - and, i'll admit, i was relieved that maybe, just maybe, i might not have to be one of them. maybe i'd get to keep summerclan and i'd sneak away with my little slice of power. but now, i don't want that. i want this so be a peaceful, loving place, and if we have to burn it down to the ground so it can rise back more beautiful than ever, that's a sacrifice i'm more than willing to make.
but i can't be silent about another issue. i am stunned beyond belief that so many past users were rallied together to pour gasoline onto a home that is no longer theirs to burn - and, yes, i'm reusing a quote i've dished out at least five times before. i understand and respect your need to have a voice - i understand your love for this site, or for the memory of it, and your desire for transparency, for honesty, for the need for registered users to be listened to and heard and involved in decision making. i understand your desire for better-formed democratic processes. i understand your reasons, and your passion, and your love.
but what i don't understand is what you honestly want to come from this. so many have been swept up in this revolution, in this riot against authority, and i think some don't know what it is they're standing for. there were problems. there have always been problems. people felt ignored, and cast aside, and spoken over, and abused; people felt out of the loop, and disrespected, and bullied. but what is this doing, other than irrevocably destroying a site that was a legitimate coping mechanism for a lot of people beyond conceivable repair. you wanted to facilitate greater communication between staff and RUs/deputies, and instead all that's happened is we've been backed into a corner and an even greater wedge has been driven between us - it's been labelled us and them. that's not how you mend a fracturing relationship - that's how you create a greater divide and force staff apart from users. how can we help if these fractions have been formed and our heads are being screamed for? and don't simply answer, "well, you should have spoken to us in the discussions. you shouldn't have been hiding from all this behind a locked door."
you should have been patient.
but this is no place to assign blame and point fingers. that's not helpful, not from us and not from you.
i'm in no place to speak for the rest of the staff, but i know the general feeling among us all is this:
we're trying.
we're listening.
we're sorry.
we love you.
i certainly love you all.
now, i have a migraine from staring at this screen all day, so i'm gonna have a cup of tea and wait for my mama to pick me up from work.